While stressing the need for more like-minded conservatives in Washington, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) speculated Tuesday about his own retirement.
DeMint was the guest speaker at a quarterly Charleston Metro Chamber of Commerce meeting, followed by his own town hall breakfast with regional GOP members.
DeMint's speech to Republicans at the Daniel Island Club was one part victory lap and one part troop rally. He lamented his own decision to go rogue in 2008, angering the Republican leadership as he began supporting conservative challengers in GOP primaries and chased a few moderate senators into early retirement.
"I decided we had to change things and, fortunately, my decision coincided with a lot of Americans deciding they needed to take back their country," DeMint said.
"All I heard day after day was that I was wrong. What I heard when I left Washington was people standing up in support."
He encouraged grassroots activists to stay in the fight and keep sending a conservative message to Washington.
"When it gets quiet on the outside and noisy up there, that’s when good people cave," he said.
DeMint might be trying to send more "good people" to Washington, D.C., but he’s planning to send one of those staunch conservatives home: himself.
"I'm going to term limit myself," he said, before quickly noting, "At least, that’s my plan right now. I'm not ruling anything out, but I believe in term limits. I want some of our new congressmen to start thinking about replacing me."
The senator's second term ends in 2016, fueling speculation of a presidential run, but DeMint seems to have ambitions behind-the-scenes.
"Frankly I could have more influence on the outside with something like the Senate Conservative Fund where I didn’t have to be as delicate, if you could call me that, with some of our incumbents," he said.
Earlier, in his comments to the crowd, DeMint’s "delicate" nature was on display: "We need to elect Republicans who aren't going to be namby-pamby when they get there."
Big On Business
At the Chamber forum earlier in the morning, the focus was on what Charleston is doing right and what Washington is doing wrong.
The go-to example these days is Boeing’s dispute with the National Labor Relations Board about locating the company’s new production facility in union-adverse South Carolina. DeMint says the fight is indicative of the Obama administration’s pro-union, anti-business practices.
"We can do everything right here in South Carolina and Charleston to create a good business environment, but the irresponsible actions in Washington could lead to higher taxes and a business environment so that companies like Boeing go overseas where they don’t have to deal with all this stuff," he said.
DeMint also had some stark words for critiques of his bristling response to compromise in Washington.
"I know a lot about compromise — I've been married 38 years," he said. "It's not an issue of not wanting to work with people."
Instead, DeMint argued that Washington is divided into two football teams. "The goals are in the opposite directions," he said. "I can't compromise with people moving in the wrong direction. I have to figure out how to beat them."
The latest compromise to upset the Palmetto State senator: the debt limit deal that let the federal government borrow more money while calling for a legislative committee to hash out a response to reduce the debt.
DeMint says it puts negotiations behind closed doors and the end result will be something he won’t be able to support.
"They'll either raise taxes on you or make us vote for extreme cuts in our defense," he said. "The other choice is not to vote for anything and they get an automatic increase in the debt limit and nothing happens. Which is probably the best scenario right now."
DeMint said doing nothing is his game plan for the next year. "We have to slow the bleeding somehow until the next election and hope that polls continue to go the way they’re going now," he argued.
Meanwhile, DeMint said the business sector is awaiting a GOP surge. "I think what we'll see is that the economy will pick up in expectation that there will be some changes in Washington."
Joe
5:25 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
wow, that's a hellava plan!
Joe
6:42 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Dear Senator, please offer government employees the right to Health Savings Accounts like Governor Mitchell of Indiana did. Start putting Medicaid people into HSA'S
CD
8:03 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Jim DeMint is a ignorant jerk. He is willing to compromise, but for what he wants, instead of what's right for the american people and people keep drinking his Koolaide. The republicians, including DeMint are willing to destroy this country to get back the whitehouse from the big bad african american president, who people believe is destroying the country. "I like to watch Bill Mayer,s show on HBO and I am starting to agree with him that americans are dumb". If the republicians were willing to compromise, the economy would be in better shape, but instead there are more focus on making the president look bad and the tax party nut jobs are eating this up like it is a steak, while other americans are suffering to make ends meat. A lot of people don't understand that you have to spend money in order to strengthen the economy and created jobs. When Bush was spending money on things that we couldn't afford, know one said a word, but when a african american man becomes president and is trying to clean up the white man's mess everyone is critizing him left and right. If any of you out there thing that you can do a better job, with all of the problems that american has, then throw your hat in the race, otherwise shut up. "Remember, Dick Cheney s said that deficits don't matter and he ought to know because he helped create it".
Mimi
7:05 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
You are sooo right CD.
Gretchen
8:42 am on Friday, October 14, 2011
Americans are dumb ??? Well, yes ! The ones who watch MAYER are the really dumb ones ! Get your head out of the sand. The reason the economy is so bad, is because of a president who has NO IDEA what he is doing ! PERIOD !
jer93404
8:53 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Demint is a right wing nut who spends all his time in Washington and has done nothing to better the lives of the citizens of South Carolina. The sooner he leaves office, the better. He's worthless.
Gretchen
9:59 am on Friday, October 14, 2011
The question is ... which kind of nut are you ? Have YOU EVER DONE anything to "better the lives of the citizens of South Carolina?" It seems the ones who do the most complaining, are the ones who do the least to help anyone.
Katana
8:22 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
I'm with Joe, CD. You have all of your talking points in all the usual places. The only way America is going to make it is when the government gets off the backs of the private sector. It will take a long time and there will be a lot of sacrifices but we will be the better for it. For instance, the definition of poverty is such a huge joke in this country. I see on the TV, advertisements for the poor to have cell phones. Please, give me a break. Also, the government aka WE THE PEOPLE cannot afford to provide food stamps, welfare and housing for 3 generations of any family. And I mean for whites, blacks, etc. Enough is enough. The government cannot create jobs. They can create an environment conducive to job creation. Obama has been given his chance and he still has time to turn things around. He only needs to walk away from socialist policies.
Mimi
10:54 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Yet Katana has no problem with the corporate welfare, big bank bail outs wall street medicade fraud, billions used for bribes in countries that hate us anyway, the costs of 2 wars the costs of our overbloated military. Katana"s only problem is that americans on the bottom don't get any part of this countries wealth, just as long as it all goes to the top. I guess you mean get off the private sectors back unless they need interest free loans or subsidies like your school vouchers that are asking for tax payers money for PROFIT not education of our childred. PATHETIC
Joe
8:35 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
We need means testing for welfare recipients! I am sick and tired of driving by these shacks in SC with Escalades in the driveway! These people have I phone 60" plasma tv's and are getting food stamps!
Mimi
10:58 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
We need means testing for people receiving all Federal money like farm subsidies, college grants, military benefits, medicare, medicad providers like Bachman's husband lives hansomley off of. She takes in 23 foster childern to work the farm for free and get government money to take care of them. Funny how that works
Gretchen
8:44 am on Friday, October 14, 2011
To say nothing of the drug addicts who get Social Security Disablility because they have FRIED THEIR BRAINS. This is NOT what SSD was designed to do.
Joe
8:51 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Representative Andre Carson said that the Tea Party is racist! That's funny! The Tea Party wants all Americans to succeed. We want vouchers so that black children can escape the cesspool neighborhoods they live in and get a better education, ironically Democrats oppose that plan.
Mimi
11:00 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
You want vouchers so that private companies can get some of that government money for profit it has nothing to do with the quality of education. ZERO it is all about the profits and cramming relious nonsense down the throat of our childern. Lets see what you think about those voucher this time next year Joe when you figure out that the money isn't spent on the students but on the CEO's and the stock holders.
Joe
11:00 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Yes Mimi we need means testing for ALL government welfare programs. We the Tea PArt hate the government hand outs at all levels. But vouchers do for black families what no civil rights legislation could ever do!
Mimi
4:47 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Joe you the mushroom drinking party only hate the part of government that isn't handing out to you and your causes. What makes you think that simply handing out vouchers will change anything??? The only thing you can hope for is that there won't be selective enrollment. With people like you at the helm you will soom determine that it is only the rich that are qualified to attend these so called voucher for profit schools. I doubt very seriously they are intented to do a darn thing for the black community it is just a black door for the racist party to return to all white schools without the regulation of the government. It will also accomplish a windfall of profits for the CEO's. I tell you I went to public schools and I didn't seen anymore problems in that enviroment then you see in private schools. NONSENSE
Joe
11:03 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi, I want vouchers so black families can escape poverty! Plain and simple, do u honestly think there is no corruption at the public school lever? I mean think for a minute before you write!
Mimi
4:50 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
How do you think that vouchers will help anyone escape poverty???? Do you honestly think just because a school is in business for profit that there will be no corruption??? Anytime you include profits in the game, fraud and greed are not far behind. I believe you are the one that needs to think because you have no rationality to your comments. AT ALL just talking points feed to you by the profiteers.
Joe
11:04 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mmi, the voucher allows u the parent to take your child out of a failing school! What is wrong with u?
Mimi
4:52 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
What is wrong with that is that in your dream land you seem to exsist in, you think that somehow giving vouchers will change the education a child gets. You see parents have always been allowed to remove their children from failing school, they didn't need a voucher to accomplish that. What is wrong with U??? Have you drank sooooo much of that mushroom tea that you entire life is a dellusion????
Joe
4:50 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
mimi you sound just like a racist.....
Mimi
7:20 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
It is not me that is trying to BS my point by referring to benefitting the blacks. Why would voucher schools only benefit blacks????? If that was even close to the truth South Carolina certainly wouldn't even be discussing it and you know it.
Joe
4:52 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
and there's something wrong with making a profit? Even if it means educating black people? Why I believe your ancestors even sold your people for a profit!
Mimi
4:57 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Yeah there is something wrong with making a profit on the back of the most needest. As far as you impling that my ancestors sold for profits. You would have to be making assumption that I was black. NOT TRUE just because a person doesn't agree with you doesn't make them black So as far as who the racist is that finger you are pointing at me has three more pointing at you.
Mimi
5:00 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Black people have the same opportunity for an education as any other race, inventing a for profit school will not add one thing to the process except people getting rich off of our children.
Katana
5:15 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi, please learn proper spelling and sentence structure. You must surely be a product a one of our failed government schools that is producing the weak thinking populace plaguing our nation. Heaven help our country's future. We are really in for it. Mimi, please come up with some fresher comebacks. I am tired of the mushroom tea routine. I am not being properly entertained. I am very disappointed. Use a thesaurus, if necessary. Keep a dictionary handy as well. Don't start until I pop some popcorn!
Mimi
6:59 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Katana I really don't need your advise on my typing or spelling so that you can keep to yourself. I find it amusing when your comment are proven wrong you go on the attact rather then try to learn from other people's opinions. Futhermore I am pretty sure you didn't spend one day in a private school and certainly don't have enough information about me to compare intelligence. But we all know that is the way the mushroom tea drinkers think nobody know better than they. The problem mus be that my comments are hitting home and showing truth that you people don't like to deal with. Pathetic.
Joe
5:34 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi, the only was a black child escaped a failing school was too drop out and we have so much of that! Stop with the mushroom bullshit it shows your education level
Mimi
7:02 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Joe that is insanity, certainly if my child IF I WAS BLACK was enrolled in a failing school I would be involve as to why the school is failing and what needs to change. Fire the principle, speak with the Superintendent the teacher. Many ways to help a failing school. What makes you think a voucher school will be any different????
Joe
5:35 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
you think public schools don't generate profits, of course they do they disguise it with spending!
Mimi
7:03 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
The difference would be if they do generate profits it is spent on the children not put in some CEO's or shareholders pocket. Thats the cherade of profiting off of tax payers.
Joe
5:36 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Wait a minute you're not black, you're a teacher!!!!!!!!!! in a public school, NOW I GET IT
Mimi
7:04 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
No Joe I am not a teacher, just a person with a different view than you. Simple really
Joe
7:01 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi, you are the one that started the attack with the childish name calling and since you did not respond to me I guess I am right your a pathetic public school teacher who is afraid of competition because no one would be left in your classroom.
Mimi
7:09 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
I have already answered that question I an not a teacher. Where is the answer to my question???? What makes you think a voucher school for profit will be any different????
Joe
7:08 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi the school teacher, do you live in OZ? Do you know how hard it is to get rid of a teacher or a Principal? (not principle) By the time you make the changes the child has graduated from school or to drugs. I believe in vouchers for one main reason, as a white man I am sick and tired of generation after generation of black families being on welfare, suffering from failing school systems and who DON"T want to change their systems! So hopefully if one family can escape that nightmare they call the "hood" then I am all for it. No Mimi, get this fact straight, the voucher takes the money from the public school and uses it for the private school, costs should be roughly the same. No one is making money here. But let's say I started a private school, did well, improved children's lives and made money. Is that a crime or the disaster we call public education?
Mimi
7:16 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Joe just for facts purpose more white people are on welfare than blacks. Racist. I don't find it any harder to fire a teacher or principle than getting rid of a useless politian. If you are deluded so much that you think the purpose of voucher schools is soley for the black community you really are dellusional. There won't be more than 2 blacks students in any voucher program. The only purpose of the voucher is to allow the whites to seperate from what they call the welfare society. You see they think the same way as you do, without any facts whatsoever just raw racistism.
Joe
7:14 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Put the money in the children's pocket? What are you a communist? We owe them an education something obviously you did not get!
Joe
7:15 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
yes a different view, you are a socialist i am a realist
Mimi
7:29 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
I find it yet again funny that you try very hard to find a label for me, but you are wrong on every account. Saying you are a realist doesn't make it true. The facts show that you are a fascist and I am far from a socialist real far.
Joe
7:17 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
i gave you my answer I want black families in AMerica to succeed, you want Obama to force feed you
Mimi
7:23 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
What does this conversation have to do with Obama????
Mimi
7:24 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Obama wants black families in America to succeed too.
Joe
7:23 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
yes more whites then blacks because there are more whites in America! ANd if blacks do not want to use vouchers then shame on them just don't blame us for trying, could it be true that whites will use the vouchers to escape being around blacks, absolutely Mimi, there will always be racism but blacks are as racist as whites if not more so and I am sick and tired of the racism bullshit. get over it move on make a better life!
Mimi
7:30 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Blacks have every reason to be racist. What would the reason of the whites be???
Mimi
7:23 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Well that is easy enough make sure they are paid equal wages, stop assuming that someone is uneducated simple by the color of their skin. Stop assuming that you are smarter and have better opportunities because you are white. Stop voting for politians that work only for the wealthy. You see you can do more than just support a voucher program that has shown no factual data that it will help anyone.
Joe
7:24 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
who said we have to benefit blacks all the time! Whites should be able to use them too to escape the failure of public schools. Mimi this is simple economics, maybe you didn't study that either, competition makes the world a better place.
Mimi
7:34 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
You said it Joe that was your very reason for wanting voucher schools, so that blacks could get out of poverty. Every comment you have made is supporting the voucher program to benefit blacks. Geesh
Joe
7:26 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
start taking care of their houses an neighborhoods, start acting civilized, stop treating others like animals, come on Mimi we can go round and round.
Mimi
7:35 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
I am not the one who is saying supporting anyone. Please remind me of any statement I have made that said give anyone anything.
Joe
7:26 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
and by the way you are correct we need to dump all these politicians that have screwed us in favor of the wealthy but vouchers are a gift to all.
Joe
7:28 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
It is the socialist agenda that you preach! Obama is a socialist plain and simple. Mimi you make a good case that the middle class whites will use vouchers but the wealthy can alway move to private schools but you fail to succeed that vouchers will not work because they will make someone wealthy it makes no sense!
Mimi
7:38 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
My point is simply that adding vouchers to pay for private schools has not be shown to improve the education of anyone. Maybe if you took care of the public school system instead of creating yet another you might be able to solve some of the problems but creating more problems under a different name doesn't solve anything and is a waste of tax payers money.
Joe
7:29 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
yes he does, just like he succeeded, on the public trough!
Mimi
7:39 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
What public trough would you be referring too The student loans that he took out??? Or the grants he earned. Be careful Joe your racism is showing its true colors.
Joe
7:30 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
I tried to give Obama the benefit of the time, he is an idiot that cannot find his way out of a TelePrompTer.
Mimi
7:41 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Well you see all business men use telepromter for presentations. Just because Michelle Bachman is too stupid to use on doesn't make it wrong for anyone to use it. Next you'll be saying he using a IPhone instead of a dial up.
Joe
7:30 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
lol, define facist mimi.
Mimi
7:52 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Facist: a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology
Joe
7:31 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Are you serious? you did not just ask that question with a straight face!
Joe
7:35 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
not making sense here Mimi
Joe
7:41 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
you want us to fund the failing public school, where do you think that money comes from?
Mimi
7:53 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
The same place the voucher money comes from but at half the cost
Joe
7:42 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
and what exactly have you read that supports your opinion?
Joe
7:43 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Are you serious? The man has NEVER held a private sector job!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe
7:43 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Oh yes you're right I remember so clearly when he stated that he visited all 57 states!
Mimi
7:55 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
It is sad that the only mispoken sentence you can come up with after hundreds of speeches is the 57 state thing or the teleprompter. How many mistakes have been made by Bachman, Perry etc. The difference is that most of us know that President Obama is full aware of how many states there are. We ain't so sure about what Bachman knows or Ricky Perry for that matter. Why are you trying to change the subject???
Katana
7:49 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Government schools are wasting taxpayers' dollars. It cost over $12,000 per student per year. I homeschooled my daugher from the 3rd to 12th grades for $1000 per year. She graduated summa cum laude from the Univeristy of South Carolina. Not everyone can homeschool their children. Private schools charge about $4000 per student and score better on ACT and SAT tests. I never went to a private school but I was brought up in a era when discipline went hand in hand with the Reading, Writing and Arithmetic. I am a lifelong student that will continue to learn, for I was taught the ability to research and to critically think for myself. School choice is needed. There should be a plan that if you want to keep your child in a public school, you get $500 for remedial assistance for your child. If you want your child to attend a private school, the public school, that the child would have attended, still receives 3/4 of the tax dollars. One fourth of the tax dollars would go to the private school that the parent chooses. That way the government school is still getting money even though there is one less student. And the government school can have the chance to improve. Something needs to be tried that is different from the same old failed government schools that promise to do better next year, even only they had MORE MONEY!
Mimi
7:56 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Katana why do you just make up more lies to try to make yourself relevant???
Joe
7:54 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
sorry Mimi doesn't sound like me but certainly Mr Obama fits that description!
Joe
7:57 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi now I am certain that you are simply clueless, public schools are costing taxpayers a fortune, FACT Newark NJ spends 25k a year for public schools, graduation rate? 25%! race, mostly black
Joe
7:59 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
because you called Bachmann stupid, why? because of something she said or is it that the media portrays her as stupid? She happens to be a very bright person
Joe
7:59 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi why r u so defensive about this issue?
Mimi
8:02 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Whatever Joe I can find just as many public schools that do quiet well. I am bored with this conversation you don't answer any question anyway. have a good time you can chat with Katana who is like minded and you can agree on everything instead of trying to find real cures for this country. See Ya
Katana
8:15 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Mimi, what do you think I am lying about??
Chris Winston
9:54 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
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Sally Margaret Turner
11:27 am on Saturday, September 3, 2011
It is not the color of a person's skin but the content of his character that matters. Why do we as a Judeo-Christian nation seem to forget that. Jesus was from the middle east and His skin wasn't white, but millions of white/black people claim Him as their personal saviour. Members of the body of Christ should not tolerate racisim. God is color blind, he created everything and everyone in His image.
Katana
11:45 am on Saturday, September 3, 2011
I agree 100% Sally.
Joe
9:25 am on Friday, October 14, 2011
Why blame it on the President? When was the last time ANY of you attended a school board meeting or a town council meeting or wrote or called your elected representative? Don't blame the politicians for YOUR laziness!
Katana
2:50 pm on Friday, October 14, 2011
Yeah, no one ever blamed Pres. Bush for anything. Without having ever attended a school board meeting, I can say one thing. Disband unions in the state governments!
Joe
2:52 pm on Friday, October 14, 2011
There is absolutely no reason for Public unions. They are protected in the courts form any legal bias out there. You cannot have people giving themselves raises. With that said we must make Congress accountable for the very laws that they write for us!
stanley seigler
5:23 pm on Friday, October 14, 2011
[Katana say] He [BO] only needs to walk away from socialist policies...
COMMENT
know who was/is a bigger socialist than BO...would you believe Jesus Christ???
i am not religious (as in organized religions)...but the hypocrisy of those who profess christian values is incomprehensible...well maybe comprehensible if the old saw is right: " the devil works in mysterious ways"...Christianity and socialism have much in common.
In "The August Coup", Mikhail Gorbachev states that socialism "...is an idea that draws strength from many achievements of Christianity...
In 1 Timothy, Paul condemns greed, proclaiming “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows...[be] ready to give, willing to share..."
so our "christian brethren" say: we cant afford to give/share...forget "a great multitude of invalid folk, of blind, lame, paralyzed"...we have to give tax breaks to the greedy rich and corporations...christian values???
stanley seigler
ps. but the christians can afford wars and bailouts
Mimi
1:33 am on Saturday, October 15, 2011
These people from the tea party think just because they say they are Christian you suppose to believe it. However I have not seen one thing about this group full of hatred for their fellow Americans that proves they have anything at all to do with Christianity. Our bible warns us of these people wolves in sheep's clothing. President Obama has done more good for this country than any Republican or tea totaler have done combined. They believe if they continue to spew their hatred somehow that brings American together to solve our countries problems. The Republican party must go for this country to recover her greatness.
stanley seigler
7:49 pm on Friday, October 14, 2011
pps. BO only needs to walk away from Christ...and join the current christian GOP/tp brethren.
stanlsey seigler
Mimi
1:34 am on Saturday, October 15, 2011
Obama portrays more Christian values than anyone I have heard from either the Republicans or the Mushroom tea drinkers.
George Grace
11:03 am on Saturday, October 22, 2011
I wish DeMint (DeMented) was post-Senate right now.